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I never got any money from you

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UFO mine just as well stand for

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unprecedented Financial opportunity

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be normal this is the saucer life a

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podcast in which we examine Concepts

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events for people orbiting the world of

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flying saucers few preconceptions snark

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when Justified no belief no debunking

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today we're continuing the story of

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Robert Renaud remarkably prolific

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contactee whose story began in the early

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1960s when we last left Bob he had just

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toured an underground base in

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Massachusetts his absence from the home

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he shared with his parents was covered

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by the presence of an alien doppelganger

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and he has been gushing over an alien

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woman from corindar named Lynn Arie who

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is a psychologist I believe so now let's

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head back to the 1960s

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so as we get further into Bob renaud's

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1960s contacts we're going to begin with

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an account from January 4th 1964

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entitled California base tour so this is

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another field trip to an alien base hard

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on the heels of his trip to the base

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near his house in Massachusetts and I'm

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curious to see how he gets from

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Massachusetts to California

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I assume it's a flying saucer but before

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Bob gets into his actual story he wants

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to in his words pause and reflect a

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little bit on the importance of the last

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few years of his life that's how he

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phrases it you know his entire life has

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been leading up to this how are the last

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few years of his life important because

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of these messages these contacts he's

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receiving from corindor or corindor I'm

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honestly not sure how to pronounce it

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I've always been a believer in flying

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saucers ever since grade school

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the possibility that we were being

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visited by people from planets outside

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our own has always held a special sort

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of intrigue within my scientifically

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oriented curiosity

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now mind you I'm not saying that I took

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contact stories of face value I was

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open-minded to them of course but it did

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not seem too wise to accept them without

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some kind of definite evidence as you

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know this evidence was rather

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unexpectedly supplied in July of 1961

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when these Riders of the silver discs

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chose to make contact with me since then

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I've been given an entirely new

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philosophy of life one that stirs within

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me a deep compassion and love for my

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fellow man on this and all worlds it is

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a powerful desire to see our planet

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living in an ideal state of peace and

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unity through the Brotherhood of all its

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inhabitants free from Fear hatred

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suffering and violence

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I can only consider myself endowed of a

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special honor to be a small part of this

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great and wonderful Intrigue and to be

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chosen by our wise Brothers From Beyond

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the skies as their voice to my fellow

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man

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this appointment lies a deep and

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tremendous responsibility for me I have

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been made one of the elite groups that

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our brothers have elected to carry out

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the work begun by the master Jesus

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Christ so long ago it is very humbling

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and yet I derive no great sense of

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importance from this massive work of

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which I am a small part we who have

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communicated with these Advanced beings

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from such planets as Venus Mars Saturn

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and corindor have been charged with

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delivering this and future Generations

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from the horrors of War into the

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Glorious new age of Truth light and love

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that signifies in accordance with the

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so he goes on to ask for the support of

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readers in the cause of peace and

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Universal Harmony which he explains is a

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massive job which makes sense and can't

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be done alone he says he also talks

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about nuclear weapons again making the

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actually fairly good point that if there

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are no actual concrete plans to use

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nuclear weapons then why are we wasting

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time and effort and resources

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maintaining arsenals of nuclear weapons

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that are just gonna sit there he says

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quote this money which could be used to

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feed clothe house and educate our

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underprivileged is instead invested in

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war toys end quote and warns that if the

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arms buildup continues there will

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eventually be some sort of devastating

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conflict Bob describes the arms race as

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as kind of a a piling up a literal

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piling up of nuclear weapons uh by by

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one side and the other and they're

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separated they're separated by a wall

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and as he each is is trying to to pile

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up their weapons to see over the wall

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and to conquer what's on the other side

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of the wall we are we are reaching a

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point where where things are going to

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get uh dangerous there might be a

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tipping over and disaster will Loom he

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closes with a final appeal

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it is up to us dear Brethren to Halt

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this piling up of

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it is up to us dear Brethren to Halt

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this piling up of weapons before anybody

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can reach the top and eventually to have

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these lethal mountains of Hell Fire

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leveled and destroyed

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this we cannot do by words alone it

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requires action my action your action

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Every Man's action this must not be weak

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and Loosely knit action we must act in

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force as one great body when it is seen

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that we are a dominant species our

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leaders will agree to our demands for an

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immediate end to our Warrior ways

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I must be about my tail

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love that so his tale it's 1am on a

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Saturday morning and he receives a

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telepathic communication a really kind

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of a prompt more than a communication is

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the way he describes it anyway he

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receives a telepathic nudge to go to his

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shortwave radio set he gets some

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instructions and begins to get ready for

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his doppelganger to arrive space

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Brothers show up around 4am and Bob is

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astonished to see that it is a different

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kind of craft that is transporting him

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this time it is a flying craft that is

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hovering 500 feet in the air the party

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is taken up into the craft by standing

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on a metallic disc which is then lifted

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up into the ship by a blue beam now the

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ship only has one room and seems to be

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controlled by a multi-armed robot it's

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about 50 feet in diameter the room not

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the robot but despite not having a lot

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of different spaces it still seems very

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well appointed

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around the wall a long curving Devan ran

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almost two-thirds of the way around the

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perimeter of the room across the middle

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of the room separating the seating area

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from the control section was a bookshelf

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stuffed with all varieties of literature

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the top of it was four feet from the

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floor and the remaining six feet to the

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glowing ceiling was taken up by a

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shimmering translucent wall of a plastic

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material that caught the control area's

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lighting splitting it into very flitting

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patterns of every color of the rainbow I

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fluid of a varying refractive index that

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acted as a sort of unstable prism much

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like the oil films you often see on a

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puddle of water seem to be of many

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different hues

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floor in the lounge area was carpeted in

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a soft green material with the quality

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and thickness of the finest Oriental

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Rugs it gave underfoot with a refreshing

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springiness that made it a pleasure to

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walk on the walls were in a soft

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non-glossy pastel shade of green that

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Blended very Tastefully with the carpet

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and the Deep green Divan between the

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windows were scenes of kurandor and the

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fabulous three-dimensional reproduction

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typical of their photos these alone

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could keep our scientists busy for years

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I like to think that those bookshelves

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are stuffed with the kind of literature

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as we saw last time which is basically

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1960s issues of Playboy that the aliens

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seem to enjoy or at least Bob's

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doppelganger seems to enjoy I like the

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idea of Bob's doppelganger going to

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various newsstands around the uh the

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Boston area picking up you know copies

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of of 60s girly magazines and and just

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sort of stacking them on the shelves of

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this spaceship as the other space

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so on this trip Bob also describes the

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conversation that took place which which

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actually I didn't think about this uh

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sort of ties into the girly magazine

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we spent a few minutes in Flight resting

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on the Divan And discussing women God

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bless them earthy admittedly but then

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one can forever concentrate on ethereal

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philosophies all work and no play make

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I say this with the utmost sympathy and

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respect and and indeed love but

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I'm getting a huge sort of

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imaginary friend vibe from

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from this from this conversation we

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talked about girls and the Flying Saucer

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guys you know I'm cool uh it just seems

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it seems endearing honestly

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um especially since we don't know what

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they said about women

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um if we knew details we might not find

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it so so endearing I'm imagining it like

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uh some sort of sixth grader with a

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crush but it was probably a bit more um

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off color than that after what seems

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like only a few seconds the ship

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descends into another one of those

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entrances into the Earth and down into

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the base which is from what I could tell

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from the description partially built

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into the ocean floor Bob is pretty happy

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because his space sweetheart Lynn Airy

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and those are his words not mine space

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sweetheart is there to greet him she

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looks as beautiful as always she's

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wearing a deep bluish velvet dress a

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white blouse and sheer nylons with white

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shoes and she looks very sort of early

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1960s her beauty Bob says would put any

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of our Miss universes to shame now lest

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you think that is the the extent of

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those lovely pools of blue they could

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turn the coldest of men to butter in an

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instant forever they sparkle with the

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joy and love of Life deep in them one

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can see great wisdom and yet there is

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simultaneously the sensuality that makes

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a normally sane young man go completely

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frantic her Eternal smile was a caress

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to The Observer it was not one of those

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flashy model Smiles but a natural

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expression of deep undisturbed happiness

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a veritable command to those in her

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presence to join in her enjoyment of

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everything and everybody when she speaks

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one can hear the tinkling of Christmas

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bells the laughter of children the

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Summer Winds Whispering through a tree

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and telling it things of sweetness

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Mother of God Bob please settle down

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good grief this is this is a great

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description isn't it because it's it's

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nice and sweet and and and lovely and

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loving and everything but there's some

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odd there's some odd choices I could

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instant well is is the butter these cold

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men turn into still cold because I've

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got a freezer full of butter and cold

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butter is hard as a rock I mean I should

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probably explain the freezer full of

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butter prices have been going up right

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so when Butter's on sale we we sort of

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stockpile it because

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I'm a man who uses a lot of butter so I

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would have said something like those

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lovely pools of blue they could melt the

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coldest of men like butter in an instant

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because butter you know apply some heat

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to it it melts pretty quick this is

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turned into a a very buttercentric

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podcast so so that I thought that choice

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was was kind of odd

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um when she speaks one can hear the

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tinkling of Christmas bells the laughter

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of children the Summer Winds Whispering

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through a tree and telling it things of

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sweetness it that's that's a lot

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um I I like it it's it's it's very

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it's very Charming I I get the

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impression if if the uh if the sort of

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conversation with the the other fellas

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in the in the the UFO on the way to the

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base was kind of an imaginary friend

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sounding sort of situation this seems

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almost like a

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it's like a Charlie Brown and Little

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red-haired girl sort of sort of crush

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sort of thing they spend a lot of time

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touring the base it's it's very similar

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to the tour of the Massachusetts base we

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go through room and room and room and

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they explain to Bob the various

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technologies that are there like the

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like matter transmission it's basically

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a transporter from Star Wars a little

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bit earlier but not a totally unique

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idea and the pump room which you would

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think would involve a pump but this is

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where they process all the various

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atmospheric gases that people inside the

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base need to survive they also visit a

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room in which the space Brothers monitor

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all the UFOs that are in Earth's

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airspace at any given time and

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communicate can communicate with them

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and see through their sensors and things

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like that and they notice that there's a

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transmission from one of the UFOs at

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that moment that that UFOs is sort of

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approaching a group of soldiers at a

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military base who have noticed the UFOs

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and the space brothers and the the space

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sisters decide to have a little fun with

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the soldiers now just to keep the alien

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name straight here astir is sort of the

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guy showing him around the base and Lynn

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area of course is the psychologist who

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as we watched an amusement astir sent

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the disc on a power dive right down at

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the men one of them must have seen its

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motion in his peripheral vision he

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looked up with a startle of expression

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and yelled to his buddies all of them

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stared wide-eyed almost unable to move

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as the three-foot disc flashed down at

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them it missed them by about 10 feet

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traveling at least 200 miles an hour

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then vanished as astia reactivated the

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optical Shield it stopped about 20 feet

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above them he switched on the audio

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sensors and we listened to them as they

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continued to look upward where they saw

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the last disc

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anyone want to tell me I didn't see what

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I just saw Jack if you're crazy

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then we all are so now what do we tell

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the brass or just shut the up and

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it never happened I don't know about you

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but I never saw that thing it must have

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been my imagination yeah I didn't see it

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either there ain't any flying saucers or

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Little Green Men I could go for a tall

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blonde alien honey right about now hey

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you up there you got me you can spare

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his companions added their own shouted

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comments yeah what about me hey I want a

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redhead Lynn Airy couldn't resist the

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temptation she picked up a microphone

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pressed the talk button and Purge

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seductively I'm here boys are any of you

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man enough for me they took off at a

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dead run toward the edge of the field

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the small crowd that had gathered to

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watch the fun laughed aloud as she said

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with a with faint disappointment oh well

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I guess not asked your smiled as he said

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there are now seven more Believers in

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flying saucers it would be interesting

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that may be one of the most outstanding

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bits of any contact account that I have

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ever read

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um now I should be clear that Bob

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specifies in his 2008 updated footnotes

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that this is not what was printed in UFO

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international number 26 back in the

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early 1960s he says what was published

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in that letter was an edited version

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more suitable to a 60s audience he says

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this is what it really was originally

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when he saw it occur

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um which I actually this sounds like an

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a realistic account that doesn't mean I

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think it's real it just means I think it

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sounds pretty realistic now

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unfortunately I don't have access to

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that issue of UFO international number

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26. I think the AF used the archives for

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the unexplains collection goes up to

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number 22 or 23 and I I did check but um

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because the chapters are are numbered a

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bit differently from what's on the

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website but I don't have access to that

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so I don't know what the original thing

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was or the original the original thing

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that's nice and nice and concise the

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original sort of account of that

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dialogue I don't know what that actually

401
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was but I like this idea of the the

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space brothers and space sisters just

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sort of just sort of jerking around the

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humans and having a little fun I that's

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what I do if I had control of little

406
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flying saucer drone things so fun time

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is over and we get more discussion about

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how they track flying saucers around the

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world and then we get a sidebar as Bob

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I digress at this point to meditate

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briefly we of Earth are still struggling

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along in our space programs with

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monstrous raucous foul-smelling fire

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belchers in an attempt to place our

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people in the space traveling fraternity

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while all of this is transpiring I

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watched as a man is transported in the

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space of a breath something in excess of

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7 000 miles with no Fanfare no noise

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nothing but what apparently was an

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ordinary everyday occurrence

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indeed what we have been told must be

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true that when a planet's people work

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together with nature the nature gives

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willingly of her many secrets to those

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who seek these wonderful beings have not

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turned their inventions and discoveries

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against one another in hatred or War

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instead they have applied their

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knowledge for man's benefit for his

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comfort for his service because of this

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essentially humanitarian and

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philanthropic philosophy they have been

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the benefactors of many of Nature's

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wonderful forces that lie hidden from us

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behind a dark cloud of our own making a

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cloud composed of our hatred our

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insincerity our despair our prejudice

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and our greed how great it would be if

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our people could but once see how they

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live who do not wish upon others misery

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and sorrow but only joy and peace this

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would indeed Inspire our people to

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better things and we would doubtless

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reap the rich harvests of knowledge and

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progress that would give to us our long

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sought after happiness it is truly

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uncomfortable that the many do not

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choose to pause a few moments from their

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daily lives and consider the promises of

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a more fruitful life that had been made

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to us by our own men of Peace by our

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brothers and by the infinite one

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such a daily meditation would encourage

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our people to throw off the bonds of

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Slavery to our warlike ways that have so

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long Shackled us to this end many books

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have been written many words have been

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spoken and many thoughts have been

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expressed yet we of Earth cannot see

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beyond our selfishness and

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inconsiderateness we continue to live in

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fear and indifference guided only by our

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instincts to live at any expense when

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many feel this way there surely can be

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only war and suffering because it is

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only that kind of insane action which

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can satiate this animal Instinct for

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self-preservation

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look up therefore and see these shining

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discs in our skies think about this in

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those lovely machines are people who

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have gone through our present

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predicaments and who because of love and

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human decency have overcome these trials

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and now live in a world of true freedom

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and peace when you acknowledge that we

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too are able to see in our time this

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Blissful life then you take the first

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that was a little long but I thought it

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was important to give you an idea of of

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just how sort of extensive the I guess

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sermon might be a good word the homily

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inserted into into these sort of goofy

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Space Age contact Tales of bobbernard's

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actually are this is this is pretty

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lengthy and it's it's interesting and

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you know the the cynical side of me says

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yeah right why can't we have a space

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program where we use technology we don't

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yet possess

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um it just makes sense we all just sort

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of live in harmony with nature and the

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nature gives us the solution

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um and and here's the thing

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I'm not always seeing a direct

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connection between the daily meditation

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and the attitude changes and the sort of

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spiritual side of it and the

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technological advancement like a lot of

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contactees Bob's ideas sort of exist in

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isolation from each other there's the

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technological Silo there's The

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geopolitical Silo there's the spiritual

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Silo but the connections between the

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silos are somewhat lacking that all the

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parts of a system are here

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but the actual

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system never quite uh is never quite

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fully formed but one thing that that

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struck me as I as I looked at this this

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sidebar is that and in my in my writing

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and research and on the podcast maybe I

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haven't emphasized this enough I've

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talked about how there's really not a

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lot new in the uh a lot of the spiritual

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aspects of contacteeism a lot of it is

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recycled from theosophy and other other

519
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sort of occult Traditions but at the

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same time there is not a lot in the

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geopolitical stuff that is that is new

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there is a lot that hearkens back to

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internationalist movements of the uh the

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immediate post-world War One era that

525
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saw the emergence of the League of

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Nations and the uh the World Council of

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churches and other multinational groups

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um comprised of activists who say look

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there are better ways to use our

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resources and usually those were focused

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on on social uplift economic advancement

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International Peace and things like that

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and the spiritual elements were even

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even among religious organizations like

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like the the Council of churches you

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know sort of sort of these religious and

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spiritual acts aspects are in the

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service of the Brotherhood of humanity

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or the yeah that's the sort of phrasing

540
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they use you know the sort of gendered

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Brotherhood at the time but that's what

542
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a lot of the contact theist stuff

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contact East I like that the contactiest

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stuff is like uh sort of sort of

545
00:23:39,169 --> 00:23:37,200
geopolitically

546
00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:39,179
um a little naive

547
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:41,820
um but but naive in a

548
00:23:48,049 --> 00:23:45,360
in a way that that serves Humanity in a

549
00:23:50,090 --> 00:23:48,059
sense and if if it seemed if it didn't

550
00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:50,100
strike me before that that this was

551
00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:53,280
something more recycled than I thought

552
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,260
um I I don't know why the only thing I

553
00:24:01,610 --> 00:23:58,080
can think is that by the 1950s and

554
00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:01,620
especially by the 1960s this kind of of

555
00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:03,500
sort of wilsonian

556
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:06,900
internationalist type of thing had had

557
00:24:12,890 --> 00:24:10,260
really gone by uh by the wayside in a

558
00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:12,900
lot of ways but um this wasn't in my

559
00:24:17,270 --> 00:24:15,000
script all this I just sort of realized

560
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:17,280
that listening to the

561
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:20,280
um his meditation there so

562
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:22,260
um yeah we should get back to uh to

563
00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:23,820
Bob's story but that's just a little

564
00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:26,520
thought I had about uh sort of the

565
00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:29,700
geopolitics of contactism actually I

566
00:24:34,130 --> 00:24:31,500
think this would be a good point to take

567
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:34,140
our our break looking at the uh looking

568
00:24:37,490 --> 00:24:35,580
at the clock so let's take a break and

569
00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:37,500
then we will uh continue talking about

570
00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:40,700
Bob Bernard's visit to the California

571
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:45,480
undersea the underwater underground base

572
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592
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questions comments Etc from the first

593
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part of our Robert Renaud episode over

594
00:25:45,769 --> 00:25:42,960
on the patreon

595
00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:45,779
um black wolf says there's a bit of this

596
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,880
island Earth in there home delivery of

597
00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:49,679
mind bending technology and Bob's own

598
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:52,620
version of The Tubes man needs more Doug

599
00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:55,559
Exeter though agreed um and and black

600
00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:58,740
with black wolf over on on Twitter uh

601
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:01,260
he's multi-platform folks uh said uh

602
00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:03,000
that he always loves an interositor

603
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:05,220
reference and wonders if like Tom Servo

604
00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:07,679
he uses it to make hot chocolate

605
00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:10,380
um this island Earth was the the movie

606
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,659
selected to be riffed in the

607
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,120
um I think underrated uh Mystery Science

608
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,760
Theater 3000 the movie which I was

609
00:26:22,570 --> 00:26:20,159
fortunate enough to see in the theater

610
00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:22,580
back in I think it was

611
00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:25,500
1996. he also wonders

612
00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:27,299
um what is it with these leering horny

613
00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:30,120
contacties and that linari does seem

614
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:33,240
tops in shapeliness

615
00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:36,360
um and uh Laura over on the patreon says

616
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,460
just once I would like to like contact D

617
00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:40,799
to meet a female alien and not describe

618
00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:42,840
her physically but mention that she has

619
00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:46,260
a great personality agreed uh Maynard on

620
00:26:51,409 --> 00:26:47,940
Twitter recommends that we hide our porn

621
00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:51,419
from the aliens always a good a good

622
00:26:56,810 --> 00:26:55,020
choice uh Caleb one of our patrons says

623
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,820
I enjoyed that the space Brothers used

624
00:27:01,490 --> 00:26:58,559
Advanced Recording Technology to air

625
00:27:04,610 --> 00:27:01,500
JFK's funeral on what seems to be basic

626
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,620
cable or perhaps basic space cable do

627
00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:06,240
you think that when the humans developed

628
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:07,980
streaming television Services the space

629
00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:10,260
brothers were like uh why didn't we

630
00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:12,600
think of that yeah I think it's

631
00:27:16,610 --> 00:27:14,460
interesting that

632
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:16,620
um and of course you know there are

633
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:19,320
obvious reasons for this

634
00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:20,640
um but I think it's always interesting

635
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:23,400
that the uh the technology of the space

636
00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:26,279
Brothers is is not

637
00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:28,440
always

638
00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:37,020
completely imaginable to the reader it

639
00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:40,140
it is not that different from where we

640
00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:41,940
can sort of anticipate our own

641
00:27:48,409 --> 00:27:45,000
technology being in a generation or two

642
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,419
there's rarely times when contactees

643
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:50,159
report back it's like I saw things that

644
00:27:55,310 --> 00:27:51,779
I can't comprehend and I don't have the

645
00:27:59,330 --> 00:27:55,320
words to say and I have had some kind of

646
00:28:01,610 --> 00:27:59,340
you know breakdown now if you want to

647
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:01,620
sort of give the contactees the sort of

648
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,559
benefit of the doubt about this you can

649
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:07,440
say well maybe the technology was Far

650
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:09,900
and Away uh more

651
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:11,640
um more advanced than what we are used

652
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:13,980
to but the space Brothers presented it

653
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:16,620
in a visual form a visual and tactile

654
00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:20,400
form that was familiar so as not to

655
00:28:26,090 --> 00:28:23,400
completely break a contactee's mind kind

656
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:26,100
of in in the sense of of yes on Star

657
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,340
Trek it's the 23rd and 24th century but

658
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:31,440
boy those Starships seem to to operate

659
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:33,600
with big chunky plastic switches or

660
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,460
touch screens that are

661
00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:37,679
kind of like what we use well that's

662
00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:39,480
because visually they have to present it

663
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:42,120
in a way that that we understand

664
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,580
um I wonder if the same thing is true of

665
00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:47,039
uh of contactees assuming that these

666
00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:49,380
things are all real

667
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:50,820
um

668
00:28:56,930 --> 00:28:54,240
uh Laurel over on Patron paid over on

669
00:28:58,909 --> 00:28:56,940
Patron over on patreon says If This Were

670
00:29:00,289 --> 00:28:58,919
Real the admission that oh yeah we don't

671
00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:00,299
really understand how this technology

672
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:02,100
Works ourselves but we zap people's

673
00:29:06,769 --> 00:29:04,620
brains with it all the time would be

674
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:06,779
really worrying also pretty funny that

675
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:08,460
he whacks his horny about Lynn Aries

676
00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:10,380
figure only to then describe her as

677
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,120
wearing ski gear which gives everyone

678
00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:15,120
the figure of a baked potato also the

679
00:29:20,810 --> 00:29:17,880
letter from the small alien child is

680
00:29:23,149 --> 00:29:20,820
precious yes I loved the the alien kid

681
00:29:25,549 --> 00:29:23,159
letter I thought that was

682
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:25,559
um that was pretty good

683
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:26,159
um

684
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,860
Gabriel McKee a long time listener and

685
00:29:33,169 --> 00:29:30,559
friend of the Show

686
00:29:34,850 --> 00:29:33,179
puts his research skills to use to tell

687
00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:34,860
us that as for the phrase you

688
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,020
followedger it may not be pretty but it

689
00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:39,360
was in use early the ufologer was the

690
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:42,120
title of a Washington DC scene launched

691
00:29:48,769 --> 00:29:46,620
in 1957 so ufologer is definitely a term

692
00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:48,779
that has been out there

693
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,020
we got a couple of emails as well

694
00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:54,480
um Richard emails to say I really

695
00:29:58,130 --> 00:29:56,520
enjoyed the episode on Robert Renaud I

696
00:29:59,630 --> 00:29:58,140
found it really interesting that Renaud

697
00:30:01,850 --> 00:29:59,640
would describe the aliens translation

698
00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:01,860
device as needing both sounds and mental

699
00:30:06,529 --> 00:30:04,200
imagery this reflects an old-fashioned

700
00:30:09,169 --> 00:30:06,539
though not outdated is structuralist

701
00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:09,179
notion of language as a system of signs

702
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:10,919
composed of a sound pattern or sound

703
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,320
waves and psychological parts or word

704
00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:15,120
images and Concepts which are

705
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:17,640
correspondences of delimited areas of

706
00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:19,320
the amorphous masses of sound and

707
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,720
thought as first defined by Ferdinand de

708
00:30:25,370 --> 00:30:24,000
sasir I don't know if renad was familiar

709
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,380
with cecira's course of General

710
00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:28,080
Linguistics in any case beings of such

711
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:29,880
Advanced knowledge and Technology

712
00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:33,240
shouldn't need a complex system good old

713
00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:34,740
humans have been able to learn languages

714
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,179
they knew nothing about just from

715
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,159
interacting with people without any kind

716
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,320
of telepathic support I personally know

717
00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:42,000
for instance of an Albanian immigrant to

718
00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:43,980
the U.S who learned English from scratch

719
00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:46,679
by watching Sesame Street that's really

720
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:49,140
interesting and you would know more

721
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,580
about that than I would and most of our

722
00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:52,320
listeners probably would because I'm I'm

723
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:54,120
not really up on the linguistic stuff

724
00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:56,580
but it's always struck me as

725
00:31:00,830 --> 00:30:58,679
I don't know I think I've mentioned this

726
00:31:01,789 --> 00:31:00,840
before but but the idea that that alien

727
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:01,799
beings

728
00:31:06,049 --> 00:31:03,600
um would be so much like us that they

729
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,059
would process language and images and

730
00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:08,159
words and everything in a way that is

731
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:10,200
recognizable to us now if we are all

732
00:31:17,090 --> 00:31:14,159
sort of cosmic cosmically related that

733
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:17,100
makes sense but um I find it very

734
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:18,600
interesting and I I didn't know this

735
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:21,059
before I read your email Richard that

736
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,159
that the way Renaud describes their this

737
00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:28,320
conception of language you know fits in

738
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:31,260
with an actual linguistic Theory I I

739
00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:33,120
didn't uh I didn't understand that

740
00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:34,500
before but now

741
00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:38,100
um I find that very very interesting one

742
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:39,779
final email from someone signing

743
00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:42,120
themselves the exiled and exalted tenth

744
00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:44,700
member of the nine which I like

745
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:46,679
um this is this is not really a draenad

746
00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:49,140
but it's about contactism more generally

747
00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:51,419
as someone who's part of an academic

748
00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:52,740
field history and has a strong

749
00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:54,179
understanding of its function to

750
00:31:57,769 --> 00:31:56,220
discover dissect and disseminate what

751
00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:57,779
recommend foundations do you have for

752
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,640
ufology in terms of first principles

753
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:01,919
goals and methods how can someone or

754
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:04,799
anyone either find true answers or

755
00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:06,960
investigate okay that's that's the first

756
00:32:09,370 --> 00:32:08,220
part

757
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:09,380
um so

758
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,120
I think this is the way I always sort of

759
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:14,880
sort of see it is that that contact

760
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,640
deism or ufology in general but but

761
00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:19,919
contact theism is sort of the thing I

762
00:32:25,549 --> 00:32:22,140
get into a bit

763
00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:25,559
um you can sort of look at it as a a

764
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:28,500
cultural phenomenon that can be viewed

765
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,580
or examined through a variety of lenses

766
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,320
there's the the sort of historical

767
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:36,960
aspect of looking at these primary

768
00:32:43,149 --> 00:32:41,340
sources from ufology and using them to

769
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:43,159
gain a

770
00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:47,220
broader understanding of the world or a

771
00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:50,520
particular Nation at a given time you

772
00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:52,500
can look at the Historical development

773
00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:56,220
of UFO belief over the decades the way

774
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,860
it twists and turns and evolves and

775
00:33:02,269 --> 00:33:00,720
things like that you can look at use the

776
00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:02,279
tools of a historian to sort of

777
00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:04,500
understand that you can look at it from

778
00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:05,700
a more

779
00:33:08,090 --> 00:33:06,299
um

780
00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:08,100
sort of not explicitly historical

781
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:11,159
cultural cultural Theory perspective

782
00:33:15,049 --> 00:33:13,320
which makes my head hurt so I'll leave

783
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,059
that to others there are sociological

784
00:33:21,409 --> 00:33:17,760
aspects to consider you could probably

785
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:21,419
do sort of Economic and socioeconomic

786
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:24,059
class analyzes of ufology you could look

787
00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:26,760
at it through the lens of gender and

788
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:29,640
sexuality you can take a religious

789
00:33:34,130 --> 00:33:31,620
studies approach as Scholars have been

790
00:33:37,789 --> 00:33:34,140
doing for for decades really the first

791
00:33:39,409 --> 00:33:37,799
Scholars to really look at um at the UFO

792
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,419
movement and contact these in particular

793
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,039
were

794
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:43,919
um some some really good religious

795
00:33:51,289 --> 00:33:46,320
studies folks back in the the late 60s

796
00:33:54,889 --> 00:33:51,299
and into the 1970s you can you can look

797
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:54,899
at the development of UFO stories and

798
00:34:01,130 --> 00:33:57,840
tales in terms of um as a modern

799
00:34:02,509 --> 00:34:01,140
folklore you can look at all of those

800
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,519
things but I'm not sure you're going to

801
00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:04,799
find some true answers about what people

802
00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:08,280
are seeing in the skies you can find all

803
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:11,820
sorts of answers true answers about

804
00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:15,960
how people have described or reacted to

805
00:34:20,990 --> 00:34:17,700
the things seen in the Skies over the

806
00:34:23,570 --> 00:34:21,000
years but as for what they've actually

807
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:23,580
seen I'm not sure as far as

808
00:34:28,369 --> 00:34:25,020
investigating

809
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:28,379
um sightings or encounters I think

810
00:34:32,329 --> 00:34:31,080
um from my historical perspective and my

811
00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:32,339
friend Paul Kimball sort of mentioned

812
00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:34,020
this first mentioned this about 10 oh

813
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:37,139
gosh 10 15 years ago now that one of the

814
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:38,639
best sets of tools that a UFO

815
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:40,379
investigator could have is to to

816
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:43,139
basically learn how oral historians

817
00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:46,260
interview subjects and

818
00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:49,560
um avoid asking leading questions and

819
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:52,260
know how to to ask good follow-ups and

820
00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:55,260
and things like that okay next uh number

821
00:35:00,109 --> 00:34:58,020
10 says do any contactees or other

822
00:35:02,329 --> 00:35:00,119
ufologists make note of what is very

823
00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:02,339
clearly to me reads as I guess positive

824
00:35:07,329 --> 00:35:04,859
colonialism in contact the Encounters

825
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:07,339
this is an interesting question because

826
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:10,200
the the the sort of topic of of

827
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:12,480
colonialism and Imperial some things

828
00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:17,160
like that is is a is a very very massive

829
00:35:24,770 --> 00:35:20,700
and significant one and one thing that

830
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:24,780
that sort of jumps out to me is in many

831
00:35:29,569 --> 00:35:28,020
contact e cases there is a um in

832
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:29,579
accounts and encounters and things like

833
00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:32,640
that and the manifestos that Manifesto

834
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:35,220
is disguised as UFO books that accompany

835
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:38,460
them there is a sense of

836
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:42,960
of the enlightened Advanced people have

837
00:35:50,089 --> 00:35:45,900
come to the benighted horrible place and

838
00:35:51,890 --> 00:35:50,099
are providing information that will you

839
00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:51,900
know make things all better these

840
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:54,540
Advanced people from across the sea of

841
00:35:59,930 --> 00:35:57,180
stars know how to make things uh know

842
00:36:03,410 --> 00:35:59,940
how to make things better and it does um

843
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:03,420
it does present as a sort of sort of the

844
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:08,640
the Happy Shiny sort of sparkly clean

845
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:12,900
good facade of of how colonialism has

846
00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:14,700
presented itself you know we're we're

847
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,460
providing uplift we are

848
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,160
um we're it's it's benevolent

849
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:22,079
um I think one difference in the way

850
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,960
that a lot of contactee stories

851
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,880
present this and

852
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:28,800
there are exceptions as we will see

853
00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:31,980
after the break is that usually there is

854
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,400
some kind of non-interference

855
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,680
thing they're presenting us with the

856
00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:40,320
information but we have to embrace it

857
00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:42,839
ourselves here on Earth as as opposed to

858
00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:46,619
it being being imposed on us but but in

859
00:36:55,490 --> 00:36:50,180
general yes there is I I think there are

860
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:55,500
extreme overtones of colonialism in a

861
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,660
lot of contactee encounters and and that

862
00:37:01,609 --> 00:36:59,040
would actually be a pretty good

863
00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:01,619
conference presentation for a UFO

864
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:03,660
conference or a real conference

865
00:37:06,109 --> 00:37:04,260
um

866
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:06,119
yeah I'm gonna gonna think about that

867
00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:08,220
because that's it does it does come out

868
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,859
it does come out quite

869
00:37:17,390 --> 00:37:12,960
quite a bit and I'm not

870
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:17,400
um I'm not as thoroughly up to date on

871
00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:20,880
Modern academic studies of sort of

872
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:23,820
colonialist culture and overtones and

873
00:37:30,530 --> 00:37:26,820
and things like that as I I should be

874
00:37:32,569 --> 00:37:30,540
but just from my not an expert on this

875
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:32,579
aspect of things perspective there

876
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,400
definitely seems to be some parallels

877
00:37:42,349 --> 00:37:37,920
thank you so much for that email I I

878
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,359
love I I sound like I'm like I'm being

879
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,640
sort of fawning and fulsome and whatever

880
00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:47,040
but I seriously think that the saucer

881
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:51,480
life has the most erudite listeners in

882
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:55,200
all of paranormal podcasting and with

883
00:37:59,569 --> 00:37:57,060
that um with that very gracious

884
00:38:02,810 --> 00:37:59,579
compliment out of the way let's get back

885
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:02,820
to uh to Bob or not and this encounter

886
00:38:10,510 --> 00:38:05,160
in California

887
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:12,650
continuing his tour of the California

888
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,480
base and visits among other things what

889
00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:17,520
can only be described as a television

890
00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:20,520
Studio there's a computer complex sort

891
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:22,920
of computer room and a large Hangar with

892
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:25,560
various Scout craft in it but the climax

893
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:28,140
of The Encounter is meeting with two men

894
00:38:34,849 --> 00:38:31,320
one of them we have met before but the

895
00:38:37,069 --> 00:38:34,859
other is a new face now Bob is in one of

896
00:38:38,569 --> 00:38:37,079
the big Lounge rooms which like the

897
00:38:41,390 --> 00:38:38,579
lounge room in the Massachusetts space

898
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,400
from the last episode and the sort of

899
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,400
accommodations in the craft through

900
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:46,800
which he was transported to the space

901
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:49,440
it's gorgeous it's got the the carpet

902
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,380
it's it's got the the couches or the

903
00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:53,520
Vans

904
00:38:57,290 --> 00:38:55,619
um it's got all the stuff and and Bob is

905
00:39:00,109 --> 00:38:57,300
sort of hanging out waiting for the

906
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:00,119
guests to arrive and um and just sort of

907
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:02,099
thinking about how wonderful it is to

908
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:04,920
know all these people from uh for from

909
00:39:14,089 --> 00:39:12,349
my self-inspection was interrupted by

910
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:14,099
the two great men that entered quietly

911
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,500
into the lounge I instantly recognized

912
00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:19,200
my old friend Master Colin Lee and we

913
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:20,820
all stood to greet them as they joined

914
00:39:25,550 --> 00:39:23,160
us the other came directly over to me

915
00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:25,560
took my hand in the usual hand clasp and

916
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,540
said I am pleased to meet you brother

917
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:30,000
there is one more guest coming that just

918
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,280
arrived from corindor he asked to be

919
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:34,800
here as well as he finished speaking a

920
00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:36,900
young man apparently about 25 years old

921
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,420
came through the door Master Callan Lee

922
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,480
introduced him Bob this is altimvedra

923
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:44,720
the president of corandor

924
00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:47,700
whoa Nelly when I caught my breath after

925
00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:50,220
the shock of that one I asked no one in

926
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:51,780
particular if the emperor of the

927
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,820
universe was waiting in the wings the

928
00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:55,920
jest evoked warm laughter from my

929
00:40:00,589 --> 00:39:57,420
illustrious companions

930
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:00,599
[Music]

931
00:40:06,829 --> 00:40:03,599
I like the woe nelly there um he really

932
00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:06,839
sort of goes overboard on oh my gosh I

933
00:40:10,849 --> 00:40:08,520
can't believe it's the president of the

934
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:10,859
whole planet which there's a little bit

935
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:12,780
of I don't know if incongruity is the

936
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:14,700
right word but it's sort of sort of

937
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:16,920
funny he's got this this total shock at

938
00:40:21,490 --> 00:40:18,599
meeting the president

939
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:21,500
um when he is standing in an alien base

940
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,420
deep below the Pacific Ocean off the

941
00:40:28,849 --> 00:40:26,400
coast of California when he has ridden

942
00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:28,859
in flying saucers when he has met an

943
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:31,380
Ascender as an ascended Master when he

944
00:40:38,089 --> 00:40:35,400
is sort of crushing on a beautiful alien

945
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:38,099
psychologist but no meeting meeting the

946
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:40,140
president of the alien planet that's

947
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:43,500
what really what really blows him away

948
00:40:48,829 --> 00:40:46,140
now the president doesn't waste any time

949
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:48,839
before getting down to the business of

950
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:51,300
talking about a lot of geopolitical

951
00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:53,220
things that are going on

952
00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:55,980
on the planet Earth during the early

953
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,859
1960s here we are we are after the

954
00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:00,960
assassination of President Kennedy in

955
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:04,500
our bobbernad timeline and there are of

956
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:06,900
course continuing concerns about the

957
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:10,020
Cold War but president altimvedra

958
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:12,660
has some perhaps

959
00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:16,380
comforting news for Bob and really for

960
00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:21,470
you have no doubt noticed during the

961
00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:22,980
past months that there has been a

962
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:24,420
gradual increase in international

963
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:27,119
cooperation between the USA and the

964
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:28,320
Soviet Union

965
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,020
we can tell you now that one of those

966
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:32,880
whom we have been psych printing these

967
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:35,460
days is none other than Premier Nikita s

968
00:41:40,370 --> 00:41:38,700
Khrushchev we were also transmitting to

969
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:40,380
President Kennedy before his tragic

970
00:41:43,490 --> 00:41:41,460
departure

971
00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:43,500
we have now set up a worldwide program

972
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:46,020
of Psych printing to include all the

973
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,940
major leaders of the world and in the

974
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:50,160
U.S and Russia this includes members of

975
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,660
the respective governments other than

976
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,359
the president or Premier in the U.S for

977
00:41:58,490 --> 00:41:56,400
example we are working on the Senators

978
00:42:01,370 --> 00:41:58,500
the representatives and the cabinet

979
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:01,380
officials thank you

980
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,260
I for one am glad the aliens are using

981
00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:06,720
their mind control I'm sorry psych

982
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,180
printing Rays to influence the

983
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:11,520
governments of the planet that sounds

984
00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:15,420
like a fabulous idea I'm not certain how

985
00:42:19,010 --> 00:42:17,099
I feel about this sort of narrative

986
00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:19,020
strand where the space brothers are

987
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:22,020
actively influencing things to this

988
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:23,760
degree and I mentioned talking about

989
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:25,140
that that one email during the break

990
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:26,700
that that usually there's this

991
00:42:32,930 --> 00:42:29,820
non-interference policy that space

992
00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:32,940
Brothers operate under but with the

993
00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:36,359
Corinthians that doesn't seem to be the

994
00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:40,020
case and this is this is kind of unusual

995
00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:43,980
and I'm certain Renaud would argue that

996
00:42:47,650 --> 00:42:45,420
the psych printing doesn't control

997
00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:47,660
anybody's actions it only provides

998
00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:50,820
influence and and and sort of feelings

999
00:42:57,170 --> 00:42:53,700
that hopefully they will they will act

1000
00:42:59,630 --> 00:42:57,180
upon but at the same time

1001
00:43:02,990 --> 00:42:59,640
it's it's a little it's a little

1002
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:03,000
disconcerting it's we're not maybe this

1003
00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:04,380
is the wrong way to think about it but

1004
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,839
we're not in the 50s anymore

1005
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,640
um things have gotten rough a

1006
00:43:14,210 --> 00:43:11,040
president's been assassinated the war in

1007
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,220
Vietnam is is is starting to heat up and

1008
00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:16,800
we've got to do something serious the

1009
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,180
Corinthians might think to themselves

1010
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:20,880
before these humans destroy themselves

1011
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,640
completely the President also has some

1012
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:25,680
good points to make about how the

1013
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:28,200
American economy works or rather how it

1014
00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:33,650
you're seeing it become common where a

1015
00:43:37,309 --> 00:43:35,579
certain product overloads the market to

1016
00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:37,319
the point where it cannot possibly be

1017
00:43:42,349 --> 00:43:40,020
consumed this leads to wasted material

1018
00:43:44,030 --> 00:43:42,359
Manpower money and time

1019
00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:44,040
on the other hand there are things that

1020
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:45,780
are sorely needed by your people and yet

1021
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,640
are being manufactured by only a few

1022
00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:50,160
companies among these is a low-cost

1023
00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:52,200
automobile the price under a thousand

1024
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:55,560
dollars there's also a need for a

1025
00:43:59,690 --> 00:43:57,540
self-contained power source for the home

1026
00:44:02,030 --> 00:43:59,700
to make such things as power failures

1027
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,040
Obsolete and bringing electricity to

1028
00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:04,079
everyone no matter how far from a city

1029
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,339
or utility

1030
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:07,680
also I might name a food which is

1031
00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:09,839
practically waste free and a means of

1032
00:44:14,329 --> 00:44:11,640
containing it in a consumable package

1033
00:44:15,890 --> 00:44:14,339
also a way of processing it cheaply so

1034
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:15,900
that it might be stored for indefinite

1035
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,480
periods these are within your industry's

1036
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:20,640
reach you know that you have an excess

1037
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,680
of radios hair dryers and electric

1038
00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:25,200
toothbrushes why not employ the out of

1039
00:44:29,329 --> 00:44:27,060
work in producing the Necessities that

1040
00:44:31,490 --> 00:44:29,339
you now lack another point I might

1041
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,500
mention is that I have heard many of

1042
00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:33,359
your roads are on rather sad condition

1043
00:44:38,809 --> 00:44:36,300
this in itself suggests a source of work

1044
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:38,819
for thousands if not Millions why not

1045
00:44:42,890 --> 00:44:40,920
reclaim your deserts build huge

1046
00:44:44,990 --> 00:44:42,900
distillation plans to convert seawater

1047
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:45,000
to a more useful form or set up

1048
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:47,400
operations to eliminate slums in cities

1049
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,560
all these programs would have a

1050
00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:51,599
stimulating effect on your economy and

1051
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:53,220
would certainly give you enough work to

1052
00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:55,619
keep your entire population busy for

1053
00:45:04,010 --> 00:45:01,550
I don't understand why you silly humans

1054
00:45:07,849 --> 00:45:04,020
don't just solve your problems

1055
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,859
um that's kind of the vibe I get uh it's

1056
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,319
it's like the president is suggesting

1057
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:13,440
sort of New Deal work programs only

1058
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:15,720
without the consideration of

1059
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:19,260
paying for these programs they they seem

1060
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,200
to forget that money is an issue that

1061
00:45:26,569 --> 00:45:24,000
needs to be dealt with unless it's

1062
00:45:29,930 --> 00:45:26,579
making a low-cost automobile of a price

1063
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:29,940
under a thousand dollars I was gonna go

1064
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:30,839
down

1065
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:35,400
a rabbit hole of car prices in 1964 but

1066
00:45:43,069 --> 00:45:38,940
I decided that my time was better spent

1067
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,079
doing almost anything else and I am I'm

1068
00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:45,599
interested in in the food he might name

1069
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,060
which is practically waste free and a

1070
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:49,920
means of containing it in a consumable

1071
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:52,079
package that can be stored for

1072
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:55,079
indefinite periods this it sounds like a

1073
00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:58,800
strange sort of riddle uh suggestions in

1074
00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:01,260
the uh the comments on social media and

1075
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:03,900
through email are welcome as we try to

1076
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:07,200
determine what food this might be now on

1077
00:46:12,170 --> 00:46:09,960
the subject of Economics we we do know

1078
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,180
from the last episode that the

1079
00:46:18,290 --> 00:46:14,640
Corinthians support Gabriel Greene's

1080
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:18,300
theory of Prior Choice economics so I'm

1081
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,700
sure this would uh this would work into

1082
00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:24,480
this somehow but the president doesn't

1083
00:46:28,569 --> 00:46:26,700
bring up prior Choice economics in this

1084
00:46:31,849 --> 00:46:28,579
particular discussion of course

1085
00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:31,859
geopolitics is never far from the main

1086
00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:33,540
topic of conversation when talking with

1087
00:46:37,849 --> 00:46:35,700
any Corinthian official and the

1088
00:46:40,609 --> 00:46:37,859
president does return to geopolitics

1089
00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:40,619
with a discussion of the situation in

1090
00:46:49,010 --> 00:46:46,670
another topic that I should like to

1091
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:49,020
discuss the policy of ignoring communist

1092
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:51,300
China it seems to me that it should be

1093
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,160
evident by now that whether or not the

1094
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,960
United States and its allies care to

1095
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:57,119
admit that such a place as red China

1096
00:47:01,790 --> 00:47:00,000
exists it will continue to be there if

1097
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,800
left unchecked by keeping it out of the

1098
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:04,079
United Nations it will become a major

1099
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:06,900
world power I'm sure that no one would

1100
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:08,220
like to see the militaristic

1101
00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:10,200
dictatorship of communist China become

1102
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,060
an influence on those striving for peace

1103
00:47:16,609 --> 00:47:14,880
how though can you control a disease by

1104
00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:16,619
hiding your head in the sand and

1105
00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:18,540
pretending it will cure itself

1106
00:47:23,329 --> 00:47:20,700
France had the courage to admit that the

1107
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,339
policy of ostrichiology as I call it is

1108
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,960
not only ridiculous but actually

1109
00:47:28,370 --> 00:47:26,400
dangerous

1110
00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:28,380
the United Nations should immediately

1111
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,540
take in red China if only to keep her

1112
00:47:35,690 --> 00:47:33,119
under control I am sure that her one

1113
00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:35,700
more vote won't change much if in

1114
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:37,800
admitting her many uncommitted nations

1115
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,140
swing toward the Western Bloc if only

1116
00:47:44,809 --> 00:47:43,200
for protection who knows maybe it is

1117
00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:44,819
possible that by granting communist

1118
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:47,099
China admittance she will soften her

1119
00:47:50,089 --> 00:47:47,940
stance

1120
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:50,099
you must admit that in any case the

1121
00:47:53,930 --> 00:47:51,839
present position of the U.S and its

1122
00:47:55,970 --> 00:47:53,940
allies is a bit inclined toward wishful

1123
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:55,980
thinking you should reconsider this

1124
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,560
policy before it proves to be your great

1125
00:48:02,569 --> 00:48:00,480
mistake

1126
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,579
[Music]

1127
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:05,040
just to get it out of the way

1128
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:08,940
yes question that sort of seems kind of

1129
00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:11,220
cynical and ignores the whole way that

1130
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:14,220
contacting narratives are but how do the

1131
00:48:18,770 --> 00:48:16,440
Corinthians know what an ostrich is much

1132
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,780
less the ostrich's propensity to stick

1133
00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:20,400
its head in the sand supposedly when

1134
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,660
there is danger

1135
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:23,760
how do they know about the ostrich and

1136
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,740
this cliche about the ostrich so

1137
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:28,319
thoroughly that the president has coined

1138
00:48:32,109 --> 00:48:31,140
the term ostrich ology

1139
00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:32,119
um

1140
00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:35,220
because none of these the story isn't

1141
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,800
real and this is a vehicle for Bob to

1142
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:39,119
talk about his foreign policy ideas

1143
00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:43,260
that's why of course so that's out of

1144
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:44,460
the way

1145
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:48,240
but this is this is actually not bad and

1146
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:50,760
what's interesting is on the website Bob

1147
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:54,300
has his usual caveat that this was you

1148
00:49:00,050 --> 00:48:57,960
know an old an old thing and he says as

1149
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:00,060
this is committed to the computer the

1150
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:01,680
conditions in the world have drastically

1151
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:03,720
changed Bob says with Communism all but

1152
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,640
destroyed the only remaining communist

1153
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:06,960
nation of the world of world

1154
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,540
significance is China the Corinthians

1155
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,280
have freely admitted that they aired

1156
00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:13,200
greatly in their analysis of China

1157
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:17,339
that's what Bob said in the 2000s when

1158
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:20,880
he put this on his website but I don't

1159
00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:24,180
think the Corinthians were wrong that

1160
00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:26,520
the United States would have to

1161
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,500
deal with

1162
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:31,440
the People's Republic of China in some

1163
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:33,720
way now putting it in the United Nations

1164
00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:35,400
as a way to keep a check on its Growing

1165
00:49:40,970 --> 00:49:37,980
Power I'm not sure that's

1166
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,980
totally what um would have been the best

1167
00:49:46,849 --> 00:49:43,440
idea but it was only a few years later

1168
00:49:50,270 --> 00:49:46,859
in 1967 that former vice president and

1169
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,280
future president Richard Nixon wrote his

1170
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:53,040
um his article Asia after Vietnam in

1171
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:55,020
foreign affairs magazine where he saw

1172
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:57,480
that that there was going to be a pivot

1173
00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:00,480
toward the Pacific uh the Pacific Rim

1174
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,800
Nations including the People's Republic

1175
00:50:06,050 --> 00:50:04,319
of China by the United States in the

1176
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,060
near future and that it was necessary

1177
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:08,640
you know sort of geopolitically so I

1178
00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:10,980
don't think the Corinthians are too far

1179
00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:13,800
off the Mark here although I really

1180
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,220
would have completely freaked out in a

1181
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:18,960
good way if there had been some mention

1182
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,839
of them psychoprinting a certain

1183
00:50:26,569 --> 00:50:24,000
politician named Richard Nixon about

1184
00:50:28,490 --> 00:50:26,579
this matter so if the Corinthians had

1185
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:28,500
actually influenced Nixon and and

1186
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,280
Kissinger to to engineer the um the sort

1187
00:50:37,609 --> 00:50:35,520
of process of opening up to China that

1188
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:37,619
happened in the early 1970s that would

1189
00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:38,460
have been

1190
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:45,180
the um the the sort of visit ends soon

1191
00:50:49,849 --> 00:50:47,880
after that but there is an interesting

1192
00:50:52,430 --> 00:50:49,859
PostScript

1193
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:52,440
added to the the online version that

1194
00:50:59,390 --> 00:50:57,240
includes a a photo of a a an attractive

1195
00:51:01,809 --> 00:50:59,400
blonde woman and it's a photo that it's

1196
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:01,819
a photograph but it's been digitally

1197
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,040
retouched and and this PostScript

1198
00:51:10,849 --> 00:51:07,920
reads as follows and and this this took

1199
00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:10,859
me by surprise when I first read this

1200
00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:13,020
because I see a picture of an attractive

1201
00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:15,180
blonde woman at the end of this and I

1202
00:51:21,770 --> 00:51:17,700
think oh wow it's a picture of what Lynn

1203
00:51:26,329 --> 00:51:21,780
Airy looks like listener that is not the

1204
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,430
omitted from this report was a very

1205
00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:30,720
personal 15 minutes or so spent with a

1206
00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:33,480
young lady named Astra Larry or my party

1207
00:51:36,770 --> 00:51:35,160
had been occupied with some base

1208
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,780
business that required their attention

1209
00:51:41,089 --> 00:51:38,880
at the time of our visit she was working

1210
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:41,099
in the computer room we hit it off

1211
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:42,359
instantly

1212
00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:43,980
over the course of months my

1213
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:45,660
relationship with this lovely young lady

1214
00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:47,940
grew closer and more intimate until it

1215
00:51:51,290 --> 00:51:49,319
reached the point where there was no

1216
00:51:53,089 --> 00:51:51,300
longer any question in our minds about

1217
00:51:55,250 --> 00:51:53,099
what was happening and where it was

1218
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:55,260
leading our Union has only grown

1219
00:51:58,970 --> 00:51:57,300
stronger as the years have passed and

1220
00:52:01,730 --> 00:51:58,980
the promise of a new life with her on

1221
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,740
her Homeworld the end of my time here is

1222
00:52:06,109 --> 00:52:04,319
a source of peace and contentment some

1223
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:06,119
things are to use a most appropriate

1224
00:52:11,569 --> 00:52:09,599
phrase Written in the Stars the graphics

1225
00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:11,579
seen here was brought to my attention by

1226
00:52:15,530 --> 00:52:13,740
the Corinthians it is the work of an

1227
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,540
unidentified computer artist who has

1228
00:52:20,210 --> 00:52:17,760
been inspired shall we say to create

1229
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:20,220
this beautiful work of digital art the

1230
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,140
Corinthians directed me to a page where

1231
00:52:26,690 --> 00:52:24,000
the image was found and I instantly

1232
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:26,700
saved it to disk this image is a close

1233
00:52:31,790 --> 00:52:29,280
approximation of astrolari's face when

1234
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,800
in her present Taran form although her

1235
00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:33,359
hair is somewhat longer than in the

1236
00:52:37,849 --> 00:52:35,700
graphic my great thanks to the unknown

1237
00:52:39,650 --> 00:52:37,859
artist whatever his intention might have

1238
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,660
been in creating this image and whomever

1239
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:41,760
he might have used as a model his work

1240
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:43,800
served a purpose of which he most likely

1241
00:52:55,010 --> 00:52:51,190
well this kind of comes out of nowhere

1242
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,020
right I mean just out of nowhere oh by

1243
00:53:01,370 --> 00:52:57,359
the way there's this other woman not uh

1244
00:53:03,650 --> 00:53:01,380
Lynn Airy but Astra astrolari and

1245
00:53:06,650 --> 00:53:03,660
we're we're gonna spend

1246
00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:06,660
the rest of our afterlife together once

1247
00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:09,059
I'm dead I'm gonna be able to be with

1248
00:53:13,790 --> 00:53:11,700
her on her planet now I think I

1249
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:13,800
mentioned last time on the

1250
00:53:19,609 --> 00:53:16,800
um terracore site that has all of

1251
00:53:22,609 --> 00:53:19,619
renaud's saucer contacts and writings

1252
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:22,619
there is a massive massive amount of

1253
00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:25,619
stuff so I went looking for further

1254
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:28,260
stories about astrolari and he he sees

1255
00:53:36,770 --> 00:53:32,240
her again on a a trip to the moon in

1256
00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:36,780
1967 and they uh they hold hands a bit

1257
00:53:42,770 --> 00:53:41,400
but that is about it on his on his first

1258
00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:42,780
trip

1259
00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:48,900
he's able to to see her and he he gushes

1260
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:50,940
about her and things and then there's a

1261
00:53:57,230 --> 00:53:54,480
contact in March 2007 that he's titled A

1262
00:53:58,970 --> 00:53:57,240
Love written in the stars which is an

1263
00:54:01,730 --> 00:53:58,980
account of what he calls a very personal

1264
00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:01,740
trip to corindar

1265
00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:04,619
um in March of 2007 so there's a link in

1266
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,260
the show Notes too these uh these sites

1267
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:08,880
or the site where you can find all these

1268
00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:11,280
things and we may return to to more Bob

1269
00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:13,500
Bernard in the future but one last

1270
00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:15,480
encounter or transmission I want to talk

1271
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:19,800
about on the show today is from February

1272
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,160
of 1964 to 100 hours it's a

1273
00:54:27,370 --> 00:54:25,200
communication from Lynn Airy and it's

1274
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:27,380
entitled sex and the population

1275
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:30,240
explosion Lynn Arie Begins by talking

1276
00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:32,160
about the the way that the population

1277
00:54:36,770 --> 00:54:33,900
and the the expected growth of

1278
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:36,780
population is is going to outstrip the

1279
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:38,760
resources available to the planet she

1280
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:40,980
points out India and China and Nations

1281
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:43,920
and south of South America

1282
00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:47,040
um that have you have large populations

1283
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:49,079
and and where the population problems

1284
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:52,920
are worse she says she says Africa is an

1285
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,839
exception because quote it is mostly

1286
00:54:58,970 --> 00:54:56,160
jungle

1287
00:55:01,549 --> 00:54:58,980
she says what we need to do is educate

1288
00:55:02,809 --> 00:55:01,559
parents on quote the advisability of

1289
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:02,819
small families and the means of

1290
00:55:06,109 --> 00:55:04,500
obtaining the full enjoyment of marital

1291
00:55:08,750 --> 00:55:06,119
privileges without the usual

1292
00:55:12,349 --> 00:55:08,760
consequences the exact means we will

1293
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:12,359
discuss later so end quote so education

1294
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:15,960
access to birth control things like that

1295
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:19,500
again much like the uh the sort of

1296
00:55:23,390 --> 00:55:21,000
geopolitical

1297
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:23,400
peace Notions International cooperation

1298
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,460
Notions the Corinthians discuss these

1299
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:28,559
concerns about population about birth

1300
00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:30,900
control education family planning these

1301
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:33,000
are things that were very much

1302
00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:36,960
in currency in the mid-1960s maybe not

1303
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:39,660
on the Nightly News but certainly among

1304
00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:42,000
among people who were concerned about

1305
00:55:47,450 --> 00:55:45,180
such things it's not just married men

1306
00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:47,460
and women just having too many babies

1307
00:55:54,829 --> 00:55:50,520
that is the problem there is another

1308
00:55:59,690 --> 00:55:54,839
social issue that can also be be solved

1309
00:56:04,609 --> 00:56:01,970
next we have the alarming number of

1310
00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:04,619
unwed mothers in all nations this is due

1311
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,900
in part to the lack of comprehensive sex

1312
00:56:10,849 --> 00:56:08,400
education and the great number of

1313
00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:10,859
restrictions and unrealistic taboos

1314
00:56:15,650 --> 00:56:13,500
associated with sex by this we mean that

1315
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:15,660
it seems to be human nature to engage in

1316
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:17,819
the Forbidden and mysterious I should

1317
00:56:21,890 --> 00:56:19,920
estimate that 95 percent of the unwed

1318
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,900
mothers were never given realistic

1319
00:56:25,970 --> 00:56:24,240
sexual training and had no idea of the

1320
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,980
consequences physically and socially

1321
00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:28,319
that accompany Indiscreet capitulation

1322
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,420
to the pleasures of Union

1323
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:32,400
the male partner in the ACT is equally

1324
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,920
ignorant of the liabilities involved as

1325
00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:36,720
we see it the main motivation is the

1326
00:56:40,849 --> 00:56:38,760
lack of understanding the clandestine

1327
00:56:43,130 --> 00:56:40,859
secrecy the beckoning mystery that

1328
00:56:44,809 --> 00:56:43,140
surrounds sex making of a process that

1329
00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:44,819
is good and wholesome an object of

1330
00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:47,700
unhealthy curiosity in many cases to the

1331
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:49,980
extent of cultist Devotion to it as

1332
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:51,960
witnessed in the early phallic cultures

1333
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:54,480
what could possibly be more appealing to

1334
00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:56,099
the young adults of your world than

1335
00:56:59,870 --> 00:56:57,900
seeing for themselves what it is to

1336
00:57:01,549 --> 00:56:59,880
consummate their passions their parents

1337
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:01,559
have hemmed and hauled so much that

1338
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:03,180
there is only one way to obtain a

1339
00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:04,500
working knowledge of biological

1340
00:57:16,089 --> 00:57:12,589
now I wouldn't call it a New Year's

1341
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,099
resolution but I am going to somehow

1342
00:57:21,950 --> 00:57:19,440
work the phrase in discrete capitulation

1343
00:57:23,809 --> 00:57:21,960
to the pleasures of Union into

1344
00:57:26,809 --> 00:57:23,819
conversation

1345
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:26,819
um I'm gonna aim for once a month it uh

1346
00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:28,559
it might not

1347
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,400
um

1348
00:57:33,230 --> 00:57:31,680
it might not happen honestly be by the

1349
00:57:34,370 --> 00:57:33,240
time I hit stop on this recording I will

1350
00:57:35,650 --> 00:57:34,380
probably forget that I was going to do

1351
00:57:37,970 --> 00:57:35,660
that isn't that a great phrase

1352
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,980
Indiscreet capitulation to the pleasures

1353
00:57:43,089 --> 00:57:39,599
of Union

1354
00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:43,099
um there is no way to make sex sound

1355
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,420
less interesting

1356
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:48,000
um which sort of works against uh Lynn

1357
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,099
Aries whole notion here that uh that sex

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00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:53,280
is mysterious therefore we want to uh we

1359
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:55,140
want to try it there's something to that

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00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,140
I think uh for the young people of uh of

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00:58:01,730 --> 00:57:59,760
the time maybe the young people of all

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00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:01,740
times but

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um

1364
00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:08,520
it's 1964. we you know it's the age of

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00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:10,920
um wider access to birth control

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00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:13,740
although in some places still illegal

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00:58:19,849 --> 00:58:16,380
for unmarried people until Supreme Court

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00:58:22,130 --> 00:58:19,859
decisions later in the decade but

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00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,140
um it's interesting because you know

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00:58:27,710 --> 00:58:24,480
education Family Planning that this is

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00:58:29,950 --> 00:58:27,720
not this is not you know

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00:58:33,010 --> 00:58:29,960
unknown topics of conversation

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00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:33,020
terrestrially much less on an inter

1374
00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:36,480
Interstellar or Intergalactic basis it

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00:58:41,089 --> 00:58:38,940
goes on to to talk about various means

1376
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:41,099
of birth control uh criticizes the Roman

1377
00:58:45,530 --> 00:58:43,020
Catholic Church for its prohibition on

1378
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:45,540
birth control discusses

1379
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,960
um vasectomies and tubal ligations also

1380
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:51,359
says there are primitive vicious and

1381
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,520
immoral ways of preventing contraception

1382
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,400
including castration and in the female

1383
00:59:01,789 --> 00:58:59,280
the removal of equivalent organs and

1384
00:59:04,130 --> 00:59:01,799
then it it uh linearity makes reference

1385
00:59:07,730 --> 00:59:04,140
to barbaric cultures that perform female

1386
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:07,740
genital mutilation which I didn't

1387
00:59:12,890 --> 00:59:09,900
now talk about things that were maybe

1388
00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:12,900
not current topics of conversation in

1389
00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:16,500
the early to mid 1960s female genital

1390
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,099
mutilations is probably on that list so

1391
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:22,319
um full points for bringing that uh

1392
00:59:29,809 --> 00:59:26,720
important issue to um to the four I I

1393
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:29,819
this might be the only contact e

1394
00:59:35,690 --> 00:59:32,720
document I'm aware of that discusses

1395
00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:35,700
this so this is

1396
00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:38,280
um this is this is interesting it's um

1397
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:42,359
an instance of a a contactee

1398
00:59:47,410 --> 00:59:45,359
experience discussing social concerns

1399
00:59:50,990 --> 00:59:47,420
here on Earth but with a level of

1400
00:59:54,049 --> 00:59:51,000
specificity and granularity that you

1401
00:59:56,569 --> 00:59:54,059
don't often see and I I think it's it's

1402
00:59:58,130 --> 00:59:56,579
it's very different from his trips to

1403
01:00:00,530 --> 00:59:58,140
the bases in Massachusetts and

1404
01:00:03,890 --> 01:00:00,540
California and I think it's a nice a

1405
01:00:05,150 --> 01:00:03,900
nice Coda to that to to sort of explain

1406
01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:05,160
that

1407
01:00:09,470 --> 01:00:05,819
um

1408
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:09,480
you know Renaud was a remarkably

1409
01:00:14,690 --> 01:00:12,839
broad person in terms of the topics he

1410
01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:14,700
covered and and that's the thing as we

1411
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:17,880
come to the end of this of this episode

1412
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:19,980
um of our sort of examination of Bob or

1413
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,280
not is that there's really no way to

1414
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:25,740
within sort of the con confines and

1415
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:30,559
format of this show to go into

1416
01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:34,260
a deep dive on all of Ronald's contacts

1417
01:00:42,650 --> 01:00:38,760
and writings because you you could do a

1418
01:00:44,650 --> 01:00:42,660
bob Renaud podcast a renaudcast

1419
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:44,660
um where you you sort of go through

1420
01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:47,280
chronologically all of these things up

1421
01:00:51,890 --> 01:00:49,980
into the 21st century all the way back

1422
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,900
to the 1960s

1423
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:53,520
um that's not something I'm interested

1424
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:56,700
in doing but if somebody wants to do a

1425
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:00,480
renaudcast I think that would be a a

1426
01:01:06,170 --> 01:01:04,799
fine use of somebody's time we will in

1427
01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:06,180
the future

1428
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:08,520
um during the year be dipping into Bob

1429
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:12,000
Bernard's contacts here and there next

1430
01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:13,380
time we're going to be doing something a

1431
01:01:17,569 --> 01:01:15,720
little different but then Bob or not not

1432
01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:17,579
different as far as the show goes but

1433
01:01:23,329 --> 01:01:21,000
but different from Bob Bernard but we

1434
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,339
will definitely be returning to uh to

1435
01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:25,440
his experiences we're going to see maybe

1436
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,020
what happens with astrolari do we hear

1437
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:30,480
anything more about astrolari does he

1438
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:33,180
meet the president anymore

1439
01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:35,599
um how did the Corinthians cope with

1440
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:38,220
with their predictions maybe not coming

1441
01:01:43,849 --> 01:01:40,799
true do they take credit for Humanity uh

1442
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,859
turning from a dark path or do they kind

1443
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:45,359
of gloss it over and keep predicting

1444
01:01:51,410 --> 01:01:47,760
Doom if we don't continue to change our

1445
01:01:53,809 --> 01:01:51,420
ways it's it's interesting and

1446
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:53,819
um and Renaud Renault fascinates me

1447
01:01:57,950 --> 01:01:56,400
these are strange interesting stories

1448
01:02:00,109 --> 01:01:57,960
but

1449
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:00,119
um those stories will be for another

1450
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:09,770
thank you for listening and thank you to

1451
01:02:14,450 --> 01:02:12,480
the saucer wife for providing some a

1452
01:02:16,849 --> 01:02:14,460
couple lines of dialogue as Lynn Airy

1453
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,859
she was home from work today so I

1454
01:02:21,470 --> 01:02:18,240
decided to

1455
01:02:23,089 --> 01:02:21,480
uh Dragoon her into doing this remember

1456
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,099
to send in your questions and comments

1457
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:25,200
via the usual social media or email

1458
01:02:31,490 --> 01:02:28,920
channels for us to address next time and

1459
01:02:33,950 --> 01:02:31,500
also remember to try to figure out what

1460
01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:33,960
item of food he might have been talking

1461
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,900
about in that one section I I can't

1462
01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:38,400
think of anything can you eat banana

1463
01:02:41,630 --> 01:02:40,140
peels I don't think that really works

1464
01:02:44,450 --> 01:02:41,640
but banana was the first thing that came

1465
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:44,460
to my head anyway our associate producer

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01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,280
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01:02:52,849 --> 01:02:49,920
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